Question about the future of Xorg

[Felipe Contreras]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 1:23 AM Michel Dänzer <michel at daenzer.net> wrote:
>
> On 2025-06-11 03:53, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:11 AM Carsten Haitzler
> > <raster at rasterman.com> wrote:

> >> well the way it used to work back in the 80's and 90's is ... this
> >> is where you stop waiting for someone else to do it and get up and
> >> do it yourself.
> >
> > Of course, and that's what I've done with multiple projects. But
> > then political nonsense kicks in and meritocracy is thrown out the
> > window. Maintainers end up believing they are my boss and are
> > entitled to my free time.
>
> Let me point out you're doing something similar here: You're expecting current members of the xserver project to commit to *maintaining and developing Xorg indefinitely*.

No, I'm not. Asking a question doesn't entail any expectation.

If I ask you "can you please pass the guacamole?" and you reply "no",
I'll just grab it myself.

> Multiple project members are keeping the lights on for Xorg.

Are they? I'm pretty sure I can grab a release from 2015 and it'll
work just fine.

But that's precisely the question that I'm asking: "are you keeping
the lights on?". *Nobody* is answering.

I would like that to be the case, because I have told many Wayland
advocates that there's multiple Xorg developers committed to the
project, because I assumed if there are users, there must be
developers. Apparently I was wrong, and the only developer that cared
about the future of Xorg was permanently banned with no reason given.

I would love to be proven right. But if not *a single* developer steps
forward, I'd have to admit I was wrong.

> Enrico clearly demonstrated in the xserver project he lacks the technical competence to lead Xorg in any useful direction and the social skills to participate in a community project. Don't let that stop you though.

That's why I'm going to help him, because I do have the technical
competence. And I'm not the only competent developer that would rather
help Enrico than watch Xorg die. There's many of us joining the
project.

I'm going to interview them instead.

-- 
Felipe Contreras