Question about the future of Xorg

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Fri, 4 Jul 2025, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 1:23 AM Michel Dänzer <michel at daenzer.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 2025-06-11 03:53, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:11 AM Carsten Haitzler
>>> <raster at rasterman.com> wrote:
>
>>>> well the way it used to work back in the 80's and 90's is ... this
>>>> is where you stop waiting for someone else to do it and get up and
>>>> do it yourself.
>>>
>>> Of course, and that's what I've done with multiple projects. But
>>> then political nonsense kicks in and meritocracy is thrown out the
>>> window. Maintainers end up believing they are my boss and are
>>> entitled to my free time.
>>
>> Let me point out you're doing something similar here: You're expecting current members of the xserver project to commit to *maintaining and developing Xorg indefinitely*.
>
> No, I'm not. Asking a question doesn't entail any expectation.
>
> If I ask you "can you please pass the guacamole?" and you reply "no",
> I'll just grab it myself.
>
>> Multiple project members are keeping the lights on for Xorg.
>
> Are they? I'm pretty sure I can grab a release from 2015 and it'll
> work just fine.
>
> But that's precisely the question that I'm asking: "are you keeping
> the lights on?". *Nobody* is answering.
>
> I would like that to be the case, because I have told many Wayland
> advocates that there's multiple Xorg developers committed to the
> project, because I assumed if there are users, there must be
> developers. Apparently I was wrong, and the only developer that cared
> about the future of Xorg was permanently banned with no reason given.

Let's change the language, shall we?

There are many developers having fun with Xorg. Some on the list, some 
not, some will reply to you, some not.

There might be some that are employed to work on Xorg. In USA that usually 
means two weeks notice, so that is the total extent of the "commitment".
If they have to switch to a new job it will likely displace any open 
source contributions for at least a month.

People having fun produce good code. Don't mess with it.

best

Vladimir Dergachev