Building X

Matthieu Herrb matthieu.herrb at
Mon Sep 22 23:43:08 PDT 2008

Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 16:55 -0700, Keith Packard wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 13:52 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>> You don't "ask for" the stipple though.  It's the default.
>> My point was that if you want to avoid the vintage X appearance, you'd
>> likely start the X server with a black root window instead of the ugly
>> stipple, and we could hook the 'disable the cursor' mode to the same
>> option. Does that seem like a reasonable combination? I just can't
>> imagine any credible desktop environment wanting either the stipple or
>> the X cursor.
>>> The protocol, by the way, does _not_ mandate the stipple.  It says that
>>> the initial contents are some unspecified two-color pattern made of
>>> blackPixel and whitePixel.  There is a weasel argument here that having
>>> zero white pixels still counts as "two color" I guess.  Even if you
>>> don't like that argument, we are the keepers of the spec, there's no
>>> reason we can't relax that requirement.
>> Yes, I'm cool with the black root background; nicer looking, conforming
>> to the spec and everything.
> Right then.  -br is now the default.  -retro gives you the old school
> root window and cursor behavior.
> I see a bike shed and I want to paint it black...

I have nothing against -br disabling the cursor, but keep it an option.

to quote myself:

  > Please stop changing X default behaviour to match indiviual
  > developpers tastes.
  > There are enough options to confgure it to your taste.
  > X is a standard and most users expect the standard behaviour.

Running the 'X' alone should produce the stippled background with the 
good old X cursor.
Matthieu Herrb

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