Building X

Russell Shaw rjshaw at
Thu Sep 18 23:44:51 PDT 2008

Russell Shaw wrote:
> Peter Hutterer wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 01:46:21PM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
>>> I built X from git. I get a stippled background when X starts but the
>>> mouse cursor is invisible. The mouse is working because i tested it
>>> with xev. I built and installed in this order:
>> commit e02f864fdf19a5ab1682336be343c57fdb69ef43
>> Author: Adam Jackson <ajax at>
>> Date:   Wed Aug 20 13:24:03 2008 -0400
>>     Suppress cursor display until the first XDefineCursor() request.
>>     Yes, this means the server will start without showing a cursor.  Pretty
>>     much any application that wants to interact with the mouse will define
>>     cursors, so this essentially just delays showing it until gdm (or
>>     whatever) loads.
> Hi,
> That's somewhat interesting. A lot of old or simple X programs (and X tutorials) 
> didn't call XDefineCursor() from what i've seen.
> When i ran xev (from git), the cursor didn't appear either. I'm testing X on
> a remote pc and so don't need xdm or any apps running on X.
> Any testing is simpler if the complications of xdm or a window manager
> are avoided.
> I think it would be a good idea if there was a default cursor present if
> nothing else.

I realized that without a window manager you get an ugly black cross cursor
which isn't real useful. X should've had a default arrow cursor.

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