xorg Digest, Vol 121, Issue 4

David davidlm613 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 19 07:22:14 PDT 2015


Hi again, so I successfully installed my geforce gt730 driver once before
but now I'm needing to reinstall it.  I'm running mint 17.1 cinnamon (same
as before...) and can't get xorg to stop.  Last time sudo service mdm stop
worked, but now when I enter that command I just get a black screen with no
console.  Tired ctrl-alt-f(keys) and ctrl-alt-t to open terminal but
nothing happens.  Also tried sudo /etc/init.d/mdm stop, per the navidia
instructions but had the same result.  I've googled commands to stop
xserver but those are the only ones that I've found, I may be missing some
little detail that I did last time but I don't think so.  If any one has
advice for stopping MDM so I can install the nvidia driver I would
appreciate it.
Thanks
David
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> From: David <davidlm613 at gmail.com>
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> Hi again, I got the install of the driver done, I think I was using the
> wrong command when I was trying to stop x server ( sudo service MDM stop.
> Was what finally worked for me). Now I'm having a settings issue, no matter
> what I've tried I can't get fonts to show up nicely.  I've tried changing
> settings in fonts under system settings, nvidia x server settings in the
> nvidia program.  I'm running two monitors and one (Samsung via HDMI shows
> everything including fonts beautifully and HP via vga which has the
> problem).  Video, images and everything looks good except fonts.  The
> driver wants a default resolution for the HP of something like 640x480, and
> fonts do look good that way but nothing fits.  With 1000x800 fonts get
> bad.  I edited the xorg.conf to 1000x800 for the HP monitor but for some
> reason when the screen saver comes on it switches back to 640x480 even
> though I can't find anything in the settings with that resolution.  Any
> help would be great, I'm almost ready to just try buying a different
> monitor even though there isn't really anything wrong with this one.
> Thanks
> David
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> From: Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at gmail.com>
> To: <xorg at lists.x.org>
> Cc: David <davidlm613 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Evga geforce730 with nvidia 352.30 driver in mint
>         cinnamon 17.1
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> Are you sure "1000x800" is a native resolution of that screen??
> If not, and it's LCD, image will look horrible (the driver simply scales
> 1000x800 to some native resolution of that screen, eventually even 640x480)
>
> 640x480 is VGA - an industrie standard and the ultimate failsafe (since
> something that doesn't support VGA is simply unsopported)
>
> What's the output of "xrandr -q" and -to be sure- the model description of
> the HP monitor?
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
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> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 16:15:45 +0200
> From: Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at gmail.com>
> To: David <davidlm613 at gmail.com>
> Cc: xorg at lists.x.org
> Subject: Re: Evga geforce730 with nvidia 352.30 driver in mint
>         cinnamon 17.1
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> On Sonntag, 9. August 2015 15:51:37 CEST, David wrote:
> > It's HP Compaq LA1956x which is supposed to get '1280 x 1024 (60 Hz)
> analog
> > input' but I found that to be a little small.
> > I'm not sure why but it refers to it as a CRT, I guess just because it's
> > VGA...
>
> xrandr -q
> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2366 x 800, maximum 16384 x 16384
> VGA-0 connected primary 1000x800+1366+0 (normal left inverted right x axis
> y axis) 0mm x 0mm
>     640x480         59.9*+
>     320x240         60.1
> DVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> HDMI-0 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 160mm x 90mm
>     1366x768       59.8*+
>     1920x1080      60.0     59.9    30.0     24.0     60.1     60.0
>     1280x720       60.0     59.9
>     1024x768       75.0     70.1     60.0
>     800x600        75.0     72.2    60.3
>     720x480        59.9     60.1
>     640x480        75.0     72.8     59.9
>
>
>
> I'd say the monitor doesn't provide any EDID data (or the transfer or data
> is broken) - check /var/log/Xorg.0.log on this!)
>
> a) Don't try to drive it on 1000x800 - the outcome will always be blurry.
> Set it to 1280x1024
> b) if you can, use the DVI connection. It will not only provide you a
> better image, but likely also bypass this problem.
>
> Other than that you need to either
> a) obtain the EDID data from the monitor (there're tools to dump it, but
> you'll most likely get no data or broken data as well)
> b) write/calculate a modeline and add that (for this monitor) to
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf[.d/some_snippet.conf]
>
> For the latter eg. fill this form with the data from the monitors tech
> sheet:
> http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> PS: really try using DVI ;-)
>
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> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 16:42:40 +0200
> From: Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at gmail.com>
> To: David <davidlm613 at gmail.com>
> Cc: xorg at lists.x.org
> Subject: Re: Evga geforce730 with nvidia 352.30 driver in mint
>         cinnamon 17.1
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> On Sonntag, 9. August 2015 16:26:59 CEST, David wrote:
> > Yeah I was actually thinking about trying dvi, I was gonna try HDMI but
> the
> > monitor doesn't have it.  I was thinking the display port was HDMI.
> Sigh.
> > It looks just as bad but smaller at 1280x1024.  Thanks for the help!
>
>
> That's (likely) because the monitor is actually still at 640x480 (the line
> with the asterisk)
> What happens then is that the GPU scales down 1280x1024 to 640x480 and
> send that to the monitor which blows it up to 1280x1024 again.
> The result is -expectably- suboptimal.
>
> Changing the logic resolution won't resolve any of your issues.
> You need the list to show up "1280x1024" and that requires usable EDID, an
> explicit modeline (though you can also make use of "xrandr --output VGA-0
> --newmode [...]", but that's not persistent) or - hopefully - just using
> the digital connection ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Thoams
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