Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari

Didier Spaier didier.spaier at
Sat Oct 3 02:01:20 PDT 2009

On Saturday 03 October 2009 10:42:15 Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Didier Spaier wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2009 04:15:12 Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> >> Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
> >>>> If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being
> >>>> a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the
> >>>> katamari,
> >>>> now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have
> >>>> the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week.
> >>>>  ...
> >>>>                          xineramaproto    1.1.2  1.2
> >>>>                                 xinput    1.3.0    *
> >>>
> >>> xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too.
> >>
> >> xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of
> >> modules needing a release made.   I'm not sure why it was removed -
> >> perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a
> >> display manager like gdm/kdm now?   Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin
> >> & MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window
> >> system.
> >
> > As a Linux user, I prefer not to use gdm/kdm -- and BTW I don't use HAL
> > either, so I'd like to remain able to use X without one of these.
> No is proposing killing xinit - if it's not in the katamari, then you
> just have to download it from the "individual" releases directory when
> you want source, instead of finding it bundled with the other modules
> in the "X11R7.5" directory on the ftp site.   If you use distro packages,
> you may not even notice a difference - it's up to your distro which modules
> to include in packages, whether they're in or out of the katamari.

Thanks for the explanation Alan. I just can't find any clear definition of 
"katamari" in Xorg's context, searching the wiki as well as this mailing list 

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