Please revert Xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

Daniel Stone daniel at fooishbar.org
Fri Mar 27 20:00:29 PDT 2009


Hi,

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:16:31PM -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
> "Data loss is always unacceptable and Xorg should do whatever it takes  
> to prevent it."
> This is a very flawed view.  Data loss is nearly 99.9% of the time a  
> result of user error and insufficient user training.  It is not the  
> responsibility of Xorg to play Nanny.  It's the responsibility of the  
> user and the users employer to provide the correct training.

That's a complete copout when you're talking about tens of millions of
people who want to write university theses, documents for their work,
deal with their photos, and don't know or care about ServerFlags.  If
you know what Xorg is and that it's responsible for Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
making your presentation that needs to be on your boss's desk by 9am
tomorrow go away, then you are not the majority of the userbase, nor
even close.

> And this reply was right on target:
>
> Pushing the reset button or pulling the cable from the wall also
> causes data loss, but you don't see flip covers protecting the reset
> buttons nor are the power cables welded into the wall at one end and
> the unit at the other. Unfortunately, there's no cure for human
> stupidity ;-) -Igor

The reset button is recessed, marked as reset, and everyone know what
it does.  A few people in my family use Ubuntu and Fedora regularly
(which was a surprise to me), and I can guarantee you they don't know
or care what Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is, but would be annoyed if they hit it.

If you're seriously suggesting that people equate the Backspace key to
a power plug when you look at a keyboard, I cannot take you seriously.

> And this reply:
> Seems like it's a problem with emacs. Sure glad I use vi. :3
> Seriously, no. Zap once, learn forever.
>
> And all the votes in the thread were "NO" for changing the behavior.   
> Only the poller favored making any change.  So why did all these "NO"'s  
> end up as a change in default behavior?

Because we discussed it before (about ten times, actually), and came to
a sensible conclusion which is not going to be changed, no matter how
many individuals come forward claiming to represent the universal view
of the entire Linux userbase.

Cheers,
Daniel, a vim user
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