<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Jim Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 08/24/2016 07:16 AM, Jim Abernathy wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 08/23/2016 10:33 AM, Christopher Barry wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:53:13 -0400<br class="">Jim Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 08/19/2016 10:17 AM, Jim Abernathy wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Not having much luck with the Distro forums on this issue so I<br class="">thought I'd ask for advice here.<br class=""><br class="">I've been running Ubuntu 14.04.5 for some time on Intel Core i5 GFX<br class="">without any issues. My display is HDMI from the PC to an Onkyo A/V<br class="">receiver then to a Sony KDL-XBR6.<br class=""><br class="">When I try a fresh install of 16.04.1, I get a display that blanks<br class="">out for 3-5 seconds at random times depending on what is being<br class="">displayed at the time. I also have small abouts of video noise that<br class="">is random horizontal lines about 1 pixel tall scattered through the<br class="">page.<br class=""><br class="">I noticed that 14.04.05 uses X server 1.17.2 and 16.04.1 uses 1.18.3.<br class=""><br class="">When I do the command xrandr --verbose I see some small differences<br class="">between 14.04 and 16.04, but it's things like 2 digits displayed<br class="">instead of 1. i.e. 60.0 vs. 60.00. I'm only concerned with 1080P HD.<br class=""><br class="">I've tried this on different computers all with Intel GFX. same<br class="">results.<br class=""><br class="">This does not occur on other monitors or TVs.<br class=""><br class="">I'd blame it on Sony and Onkyo if they didn't work so well with<br class="">Windows, all versions, and ubuntu all versions except 16.04.<br class=""><br class="">It's almost like the auto detection software in the newest version<br class="">of X is off just enough to make my display flaky. Kind of like the<br class="">old analog CRT TVs that were sensitive to small tweaks to the<br class="">horizontal and vertical adjustments.<br class=""><br class="">Any help would be appreciated.<br class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""></blockquote>Can someone let me know where I can ask questions regarding problems<br class="">with X?? I thought this forum would be the place?<br class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>Jim,<br class=""><br class="">From the data above, I do not think it's possible to troubleshoot very<br class="">effectively. It also seems like (to me anyway) that you have a fairly<br class="">non-standard kind of configuration going on.<br class=""><br class="">If I understand it, you have a media-center type PC with an integrated<br class="">Intel graphics card on an core i5 processor. Using an HDMI cable, you're<br class="">plugging into an Onkyo A/V receiver (you do not mention the model),<br class="">which in turn connects to a Sony KDL-XBR6 LCD TV.<br class=""><br class="">What happens when you connect your PC to a the Sony directly or to<br class="">a normal PC LCD monitor? Does that work?<br class=""><br class="">Are you using an xorg configuration file, or are you allowing automatic<br class="">setup via kernel mode switching? If you a have config file(s), what<br class="">happens when you move them out of the way temporarily and allow<br class="">automatic config?<br class=""></blockquote>I'm using automatic setup on install. I played with the concept of creating an xorg.conf file. It's not as easy as it used to be. I tried without success to create an entry with a modeline statement but it messed things up so I abandoned that path of debug.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">What's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?<br class=""></blockquote>I'll post the Xorg log later when I'm back at that PC. I looked at it to confirm no errors and which xorg configuration file it was using. I'll post one from my test system that has nothing but 16.04 installed plus current updates.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">After the previous test I did and posted the log and dmesg I got an update from Ubuntu for the xserver intel driver. After installing and rebooting, I find that while I still have some problems, they are reduced. I can go for 5-10 minutes before a blank screen and the horizontal line noise is reduced but not gone.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div>The log for the apt upgrade is as follows:</div><div><div><br class=""></div><div>Start-Date: 2016-08-26 07:17:58</div><div>Commandline: apt upgrade</div><div>Requested-By: jim (1000)</div><div>Install: snap-confine:amd64 (1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8, automatic)</div><div>Upgrade: libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>eog:amd64 (3.18.2-1ubuntu2, 3.18.2-1ubuntu2.1), </div><div>libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, 1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1), </div><div>libdfu1:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>libdrm-amdgpu1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>[COLOR="Red"]xserver-xorg-video-intel:amd64 (2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1, 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1.1)[/COLOR], </div><div>ubuntu-core-launcher:amd64 (1.0.27.1, 1.0.38-0ubuntu0.16.04.8), </div><div>libdrm2:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>libfwupd1:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>fwupd:amd64 (0.7.0-0ubuntu4.2, 0.7.0-0ubuntu4.3), </div><div>libidn11:amd64 (1.32-3ubuntu1, 1.32-3ubuntu1.1), </div><div>[COLOR="red"]libdrm-intel1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), [/COLOR]</div><div>libdrm-radeon1:amd64 (2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.1, 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2), </div><div>libharfbuzz0b:amd64 (1.0.1-1build2, 1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1)</div><div>End-Date: 2016-08-26 07:18:03</div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Jim A</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; 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