Problems with X.org and incompatibilities with in-house software
Richard Brown
rbrown1445 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 28 14:48:50 PST 2010
Dear X.org,
I work for a large corporation which has used X Window System in its
internal systems since the 1980s. We have code going back to since the
mid 80s which has used X which are a critical part of our corporations
internal infrastructures and information systems. We have dozens of
applications written using xlib involving millions of lines of code. We
have significant investments on in house applications written with Xlib
and have used at various times, dumb terminals, then XFree86, and now
X.org on the display end. X.org is now the standard server on Linux
systems which we would have liked to use. We make extensive use of X's
network transparency as we run major server farms which run applications
which are displayed over our networks to terminals throughout our office
complex.
Recently, however, we have been shocked and dismayed at what we consider
extremely poor design decisions made by X.org which show indifference to
backwards compatibility and the needs of many users.
We have always depended on the high degree of backwards compatibility
that X provides, as we have applications directly tied to xlib and to a
number of extensions and as well clients which run on older server
systems using older versions of X connecting to new and more recent
Linux X servers.
Our applications make extensive use of a large number of X extensions,
these include, but are not limited to, MIT-Sundry-Nonstandard (many of
our oldest programs from the early days use this) ,TOG-CUP, Xtrap,
Xfree86-Misc, XEvIE, EVI, PEX, (for many of our 3D modelling and CAD
applications), Appgroup, Xprint (many of our apps use this to print out
forms, documents and schematics), and Ximage (we use this heavily to
display images). Xlib is very much intergrated into all of our programs
and we make extensive use of every single feature in xlib. and of every
extension. I do not believe that there is an extension anywhere or any
feature of xlib that we have not utilised in some way.
To our much dismay we have recently found after attempting to install
new Linux boxes that these extensions no longer appear to be available.
This has caused most of our internal applications to blow up and to be
completely ruined and unusable in the process. Dozens of applications
have now blown up and are not able to be used, involving millions of
lines of code. Thousands of dollars already invested in upgrade to new
Linux systems appears to be completely useless now, as none of our
applications can be used on these new systems.
This has caused great harm to our company and a loss of vast investments
we have made of millions of lines of code written over a period of over
22 years, heavily interlinked with these X extensions and dependent on
them have been rendered completely non functional due to X.org's bad
design decisions.
It is well past time that your organisation make backwards compatibility
with core X11 and all extensions to it a primary principle of your
organisation. To many have invested too much money into developing
software to utilise these extensions than to have them mindlessly
removed and thus blowing up dozens of our internal applications.
We have decided that we will probably move to an entirely Win32 platform
instead of investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into an extensive
rewriting of our existing X applications, as it seems like, from what we
have already seen, it no longer seems as though we can count on this
platform to provide the backwards compatibility we need. We have been
talking to Microsoft extensively about this issue and they have indeed
provided us with huge resources and have iron clad commitments to
maintaining compatibility with their older interfaces, so we can rest
assured that with them that code we write today will still work years
and years from now.
It is very sad that it has come to this, and that X no longer seems to
be taking the need for backwards compatibility seriously. Backwards
compatibility is ESSENTIAL! We used to find X the perfect platform, but
it seems those days are gone.
Needless to say we have been burned badly by X.org and its lack of
concern for its users applications and their need for backwards
compatability.
I feel very badly that a once sound platform such as X has resorted to
such shoddy, ignorant, and poorly thought out actions and behaviours. I
am sure your platform will suffer greatly as a result.
Sincerely,
Richard Brown
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