Xorg support to import options for non-Input sections?

[Dan Nicholson]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Robert Noland <rnoland at 2hip.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:16 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Robert Noland <rnoland at 2hip.net> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:24 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Alan Coopersmith
>> >> <Alan.Coopersmith at sun.com> wrote:
>> >> > Colin Guthrie wrote:
>> >> >> 'Twas brillig, and Kevin Stange at 12/05/09 18:23 did gyre and gimble:
>> >> >>> So you're saying this HAL method is widely (or narrowly, but by the
>> >> >>> right people) disliked?  Using Gentoo it seems to be encouraged, and
>> >> >>> I've seen indications other distros (like Ubuntu) have picked up the
>> >> >>> technique as well.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HAL will eventually be phased out in favour of getting more direct
>> >> >> information from udev. I'm not sure how that will impact the Xorg side
>> >> >> of things but i'd imagine the end solution will be in some way related
>> >> >> to udev. (this is just a guess tho)
>> >> >
>> >> > And for non-Linux systems?   HAL is OS-agnostic, udev seems very Linux
>> >> > specific.
>> >>
>> >> Well, there's DeviceKit, but I don't think anyone has any plans for
>> >> DeviceKit-input or DeviceKit-graphics. I'd personally like to see an
>> >> abstraction layer rather than putting one into Xorg.
>> >
>> > You don't consider HAL an reasonable abstraction layer?
>>
>> Not when its creators are trying to get rid of it.
>
> Well, I think that our gnome folks are planning to support DeviceKit as
> it's replacement.
>
> If we are going to support dynamic device detection, then I think the
> most reasonable approach is to support an OS independent or at least
> cross platform API.

Right. The issue is that DeviceKit is not a catch all for any piece of
hardware that could show up like HAL is. There are smaller niche DKs
like DeviceKit-disks and DeviceKit-power right now. Like I said, I
don't think anyone is planning DeviceKit-input to abstract input
devices.

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Dan