Q re /usr/share/hwdata files

Alex Deucher alexdeucher at gmail.com
Fri Apr 4 08:42:35 PDT 2008

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2008, Gene Heskett wrote:
>  >On Friday 04 April 2008, Gene Heskett wrote:
>  Humm, I think I'm talking to myself here.  Please don't call the guys in the
>  white jackets just yet.
>  >>On Thursday 03 April 2008, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>  >>>On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>  >>>> I note, in mucking around in the yumex database, that there is no
>  >>>> radeonhd.xinf file in xorg-x11-drv-ati or in  xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd.
>  >>>
>  >>>That would be a distribution issue, not an xorg one.
>  >>
>  >>Oh?  You are saying there is one if I build from src?
>  >>
>  >>>> I'm attempting to see if I can figure out how to restore my tty1 console
>  >>>> when I exit x.  As it is, the video totally stops and the monitor shuts
>  >>>> down when I exit x now.  No consoles are available of the 6 default
>  >>>> ones. The only action I tried so far is to blindly type reboot, or the
>  >>>> vulcan nerve pinch on ctl-alt-del.  It may be possible to re-'startx',
>  >>>> and I will try that the next time I reboot.
>  >>>
>  >>>And that sounds like radeonhd failing to reprogram the mode correctly on
>  >>>exit, which you're not going to solve with any number of configuration
>  >>>files. Have you tried radeon, to see whether it's a general bug or one
>  >>>specific to a driver?
>  >>
>  >>Once, x refused to start.  It is installed.  Was I miss-configured?
>  >>
>  >>Thanks.
>  >
>  >I must have been, your question prompted me to remove the hd from radeonhd
>  > in the .conf, stop x and type 'startx'.  I'm running on it now, but tvtime
>  > and such is still dead.  glxinfo says dri is still foobar too.  And, TBT, I
>  > can't see any difference in how the two different drivers are actually
>  > working. glxgears still says about 350.  I'll save this and see if I have a
>  > tty1 when I quit X now, brb.
>  >
>  >Short answer, no.  But this was not a restart from a good screen either,
>  > which may make this test moot.
>  After a reboot, once x has been run on this 2400HD card, there will be no more
>  vga video until the next reboot, that mode is not being re-enabled at x
>  quitting time.  But with either driver, you can blindly restart x with a
>  startx just fine, and really fast, like maybe 2 seconds max.
>  Another bit of info, not directly related, but something to pass on here.
>  Because neither the radeon nor the radeonhd drivers support the video overlay
>  mode that stuff like tvtime and xine use, if there are any xine or gxine
>  plugins in the plugns dir for the beta firefoxes, they will turn into a
>  crash-o-matic monster, spinning their wheels at 0 cpu forever.

Sounds like an application bug.

>  Is this missing video overlay mode (and the dri too) being actively worked on?
>  Or has ATI not yet output the docs to allow it?

We are working on getting the 3D documents released for the r6xx
chips.  Once they are released it will take some time to add support
for textured video.

>  Is there an ATI based card that sells for under a big buck, available yet that
>  these drivers do fully support?

Every ati card except r6xx chips has support for Xv (either via
overlay or textured video or both depending on the chip).


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