xorg Digest, Vol 17, Issue 78
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. X 7.2 Final release when ? (Allen R. Lorenz)
> 2. libXaw6 (Bill Cunningham)
> 3. dual display resolution (steve Murmann)
> 4. RE: RMonitor Behavior On SLES 10 IA64 With ATI Graphics
> (Magolan, John F)
> 5. Re: libXaw6 (Jeremy C. Reed)
> 6. Re: Efficient Screen Capture (List Sink (Terrence))
> 7. Re: Efficient Screen Capture (Tomas Carnecky)
> 8. [PATCH] Mouse pointer acceleration (Simon Thum)
> 9. Re: [PATCH] Mouse pointer acceleration (Daniel Stone)
> 10. Testing the i810 modesetting branch (Fr?d?ric Riss)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:28:58 -0800
>From: "Allen R. Lorenz" <allenlorenz at charter.net>
>Subject: X 7.2 Final release when ?
>To: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <1166732938.14672.20.camel at orac>
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>Release 7.2 has been delayed according to Daniel Stone, for several
>reasons. Which he listed at
>http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/X11R72Issues
>
> >From the www.x.org list though I don't see much status on these holdup ?
>If the release need to be pushed back further, I would suggest updating
>the wiki release data (along with the link there to the issues
>document ),and some further status.
>
>I note from the archive, that several items where pushed off to 7.3
>already to allow for 7.2 in early December, Will the game plan still be
>for a May 7.3 release ?
>
> Allen
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:03:10 -0500
>From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu2 at verizon.net>
>Subject: libXaw6
>To: <xorg at lists.freedesktop.org>
>Message-ID: <000c01c72543$6c8c0260$2f01a8c0 at YOUR24A567B3D2>
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> I am trying to compile X11R7.0 and I am told by linux I need files I
>can't find in the downloads directory on the x.org site. Xmuu and libXaw6
>for example. What happened to them?
>
>Bill
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:53:47 -0600
>From: steve Murmann <junkmsk at frontiernet.net>
>Subject: dual display resolution
>To: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <1166734427.508.11.camel at murm12>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>I am fairly new to linux I have setup a dual display using edgy, a
> nvidia dual display card without twinview or xineorama . All
> went fine
> and both work except that one display is 20 feet from the
> computer and
> that monitor always boots with very low resolution. If I boot
> with 2
> normal lead monitors all is well I can then unhook one and
> connect the
> far away monitor and it works fine.
>
> I assume its too far away to get a good read on the monitor and
> defaults
> to low resolution.
>
> I even edited the xorg.conf file and reloved all calls for low
> resolution. didn't work.
>
> my qhestion ... how do I force a resolution?
>
> thanks steve
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:40:07 -0500
>From: "Magolan, John F" <John.Magolan at unisys.com>
>Subject: RE: RMonitor Behavior On SLES 10 IA64 With ATI Graphics
>To: "Stefan Dirsch" <sndirsch at suse.de>
>Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID:
> <EF8D308BE33AF54D8934DF26520252D305D8180E at USTR-EXCH5.na.uis.unisys.com>
>
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>
>One more data point. Higher screen resolutions are OK on the latest RHEL5
>snapshot (based on X.Org 7.1.1). It appears this issue is specific to SLES
>10 / X.Org 6.9.0, probably not of further interest to the general X.Org
>community.
>
>John Magolan
>Unisys Tredyffrin K205-4
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Magolan, John F
>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:05 AM
>To: 'Stefan Dirsch'
>Cc: Matthias Hopf; 'xorg at lists.freedesktop.org'
>Subject: RE: RMonitor Behavior On SLES 10 IA64 With ATI Graphics
>
>There are two entries related to SLES 10 graphics issues on IA64 systems,
>162594 and 202341. We did not originate either, but have seen both
>problems and have attached ourselves to the reports.
>
>John Magolan
>Unisys Tredyffrin K205-4
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>Disney
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefan Dirsch [mailto:sndirsch at suse.de]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: Magolan, John F
>Cc: Matthias Hopf; xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Subject: Re: RMonitor Behavior On SLES 10 IA64 With ATI Graphics
>
>On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 07:12:22AM -0500, Magolan, John F wrote:
> > Matthias,
> >
> > Thanks for the response. This has already been reported via Novell's
> > bugzilla. My main purpose in posting here is to find out whether
> > similar problems have been seen in environments other than SLES 10.
>
>Which Bugreport is this exactly?
>
>Best regards,
>Stefan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthias Hopf [mailto:mhopf at suse.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:01 AM
> > To: Magolan, John F
> > Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
> > Subject: Re: RMonitor Behavior On SLES 10 IA64 With ATI Graphics
> >
> > On Dec 18, 06 10:22:51 -0500, Magolan, John F wrote:
> > > The Novell/SuSE SLES 10 Linux release is in use on the ia64 version of
> > > our Unisys ES7000/one server. (For the record, SLES 10 includes X.Org
> > > release 6.9.0.) Our graphic interface device is ATI Rage Mobility.
> > > When we try to enter monitor specifications through the SLES SaX2
> > > interface the monitor test fails, consistently indicating a frequency
> > > error. We have tried this on a couple of standard monitors from Dell
> > > and NEC with the same negative results. What we always end up with,
> > and
> > > can't escape, is a 640x480 monitor screen.
> >
> > I think this is something you should post in Novell's bugzilla. I'm not
> > aware that this issue is already listed there, but I might be mistaken.
> >
> > > resolutions to anything reasonable. On SLES 10, though, using the
> > RHEL4
> > > input merely causes the frequency error to occur when X is restarted.
> > A
> >
> > SLES10 and RHEL4 use different versions of Xorg. It might very well be a
> > radeon driver regression. Of course, it *might* be related to some IA64
> > patch we're applying, but I doubt so.
> >
> > Matthias
>
>Public Key available
>------------------------------------------------------
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:47:23 -0600 (CST)
>From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at reedmedia.net>
>Subject: Re: libXaw6
>To: Bill Cunningham <billcu2 at verizon.net>
>Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.0612211544220.8352 at glacier.reedmedia.net>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>
> > I am trying to compile X11R7.0 and I am told by linux I need files I
>can't
> > find in the downloads directory on the x.org site. Xmuu and libXaw6 for
> > example. What happened to them?
>
>Xmuu (mini) is part of libXmu and libXaw6 (and 7 and 8) is part of libXaw.
>
>Both available at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/lib/.
>
>If you need more details, maybe show us what and how you are trying to
>compile and specific errors.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:40:40 -0800
>From: "List Sink (Terrence)" <list-sink at trainedmonkeystudios.org>
>Subject: Re: Efficient Screen Capture
>To: jason cipriani <jason.cipriani at gmail.com>
>Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <458B9A08.9000407 at trainedmonkeystudios.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>jason cipriani wrote:
> > How do I capture the contents of the screen in less than 10 seconds?
> >
> > The following code is entirely too inefficient to be useful:
> >
> > Display *disp = XOpenDisplay(NULL);
> > Window win = XRootWindow(disp, XDefaultScreen(disp));
> > XImage *image = XGetImage(disp, win, 0, 0, WIDTH, HEIGHT, ~0, XYPixmap);
> >
> > I'm willing to hack it pretty far so any ideas (such as direct copies
> > from video memory) would be useful. I am not willing to use any
> > hardware other than this machine.
> >
> > Also just to make sure, is ~0 a sane value for plane_mask with format
> > XYPixmap?
> >
>
>What you want is almost certainly the X Shared Memory extension.
>
>My understanding of this area is fuzzy; however, as I grokked it, when
>you use XGet/XPutImage directly, it does a client<->server copy through
>the socket that handles such transactions. Even if this is a unix
>socket on the local machine, every byte has to go through an
>intermediary buffer in the kernel. Rather, as long as you are running
>the client and server on the same machine, you can tell X to instead use
>a unix shared memory object to transport the image between client and
>server (instead of a socket). I have, alas, forgotten the more esoteric
>details, but this gave me memcpy equivalent speeds for grabbing the
>frame buffer.
>
>If you need even higher speeds than this (and it would be oh-so-nice),
>then you will have to consult one of the real X gurus.
>
>The XShm reference that I found most useful is here:
>http://www.xfree86.org/current/mit-shm.html
>
>Terrence Cole
>terrence at zettabytestorage.com
>
>CTO, Zettabyte Storage
>www.zettabytestorage.com
>
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
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>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:02:25 +0000
>From: Tomas Carnecky <tom at dbservice.com>
>Subject: Re: Efficient Screen Capture
>To: jason cipriani <jason.cipriani at gmail.com>
>Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <458BAD31.6020009 at dbservice.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>jason cipriani wrote:
> > How do I capture the contents of the screen in less than 10 seconds?
> >
> > The following code is entirely too inefficient to be useful:
> >
> > Display *disp = XOpenDisplay(NULL);
> > Window win = XRootWindow(disp, XDefaultScreen(disp));
> > XImage *image = XGetImage(disp, win, 0, 0, WIDTH, HEIGHT, ~0, XYPixmap);
> >
> > I'm willing to hack it pretty far so any ideas (such as direct copies
> > from video memory) would be useful. I am not willing to use any
> > hardware other than this machine.
> >
>
>When trying to write 'Fraps for Linux' (eg. screen capturing application
>that would be fast enough to capture (OpenGL-)games), I came across
>this: If you create a fullscreen OpenGL window, minimize it and
>glReadPixels() from the frontbuffer (glReadBuffer(GL_FRONT)), you
>effectively capture what's on the screen (that was with my binary nvidia
>driver, don't know how other drivers behave, and also, it was a long
>time ago, I think with xorg 6.9)
>However, when running another OpenGL application at the same time (for
>me it was the actual game) then glReadPixels() became _very_ slow, but
>capturing normal desktop application should be ok.
>
>tom
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:54:11 +0000
>From: Simon Thum <simon.thum at mni.fh-giessen.de>
>Subject: [PATCH] Mouse pointer acceleration
>To: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <458BE383.1080904 at mni.fh-giessen.de>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Hi List,
>
>I've been working on improving mouse pointer acceleration, and I reached
>a point where I need some comment from more people with more background
>in X.
>
>The main point is I want pointer acceleration to become more predictable
>to the user, improving the user experience. I've recieved some response
>from users who would like to see it in mainstream, mainly due to laptop
>issues.
>
>I'm not too deep into X and don't have much spare time, so I kindly ask
>everyone interested to have a look at it (It works fine for me) and
>please feel free to give me comment! In the link below you'll find patch
>and docs.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Simon Thum
>
>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8583
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:07:23 +0200
>From: Daniel Stone <daniel at fooishbar.org>
>Subject: Re: [PATCH] Mouse pointer acceleration
>To: simon.thum at gmx.de
>Cc: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <20061222120723.GT16381 at fooishbar.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 01:54:11PM +0000, Simon Thum wrote:
> > I've been working on improving mouse pointer acceleration, and I reached
> > a point where I need some comment from more people with more background
> > in X.
> >
> > The main point is I want pointer acceleration to become more predictable
> > to the user, improving the user experience. I've recieved some response
> > from users who would like to see it in mainstream, mainly due to laptop
> > issues.
> >
> > I'm not too deep into X and don't have much spare time, so I kindly ask
> > everyone interested to have a look at it (It works fine for me) and
> > please feel free to give me comment! In the link below you'll find patch
> > and docs.
>
>Hi Simon,
>It's in my patch queue[0] to review. I'll give you feedback when I get
>to looking at it (after 7.2's released).
>
>Cheers,
>Daniel
>
>[0]: Located in my head.
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>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:16:07 +0100
>From: Fr?d?ric Riss <frederic.riss at gmail.com>
>Subject: Testing the i810 modesetting branch
>To: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
>Message-ID: <1166789767.5109.41.camel at funkylaptop>
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>Hello,
>
>For various reasons I would like to run my Intel MacMini under Linux in
>pure EFI mode (ie. without any BIOS). In this configuration the 945GM
>graphic
>chipset isn't supported by the current xorg i810 driver.
>
>I thought I'd give the modesetting branch a try and here are the
>results: the server starts and displays something on the screen, but the
>display is distorted and "clamped" (the distorted display only shows
>circa 1/4 of the whole desktop size).
>
>I'm attaching the full Xorg start log in the hope that it's useful
>information for you. I'm ready to do any experimentation, just ask (or
>maybe it's too early for this kind of feedback?)
>
>I've tried this on top of an Ubuntu Edgy installation.
>
>Thanks,
>Fred
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