Looking ahead to the 7.8 katamari
Alex Deucher
alexdeucher at gmail.com
Fri Jun 8 07:05:07 PDT 2012
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Dave Airlie <airlied at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Alex Deucher <alexdeucher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Alan Coopersmith
>> <alan.coopersmith at oracle.com> wrote:
>>> As is traditional when we release a katamari, I have created a new wiki page
>>> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.8 to hold the incomplete todo items carried
>>> forward from the 7.7 page, and a few other things that have been discussed but
>>> not previously put into the wiki.
>>>
>>> Developers, please use your X input event generating powers to activate the wiki
>>> edit icon and enter text changes to make the contents more or less realistic.
>>>
>>> Also, I know I said last time I wouldn't be doing another one (and my predicted
>>> unavailability in the latter half of last year was correct, leading to the
>>> release not coming out until this year), but this time I really mean it - I've
>>> accepted new responsibilities at work, leading to less time available for doing
>>> X.Org tasks, and passing on the katamari release manager baton is next on my
>>> list of ways to balance it out.
>>>
>>> Since no one seems to have screamed loudly about our katamari release cycle
>>> growing from 6 months to 12, and now nearly 18 months, it might be reasonable
>>> to plan on 7.8 coming out with Xorg server 1.15 in the second half of 2013.
>>> If that's the schedule we want, a release manager or release management team
>>> should be in place by this time next year. The workload can be spread out,
>>> especially the load of releasing individual modules - the main thing we've had
>>> a single person for is deciding when to call it done and what to pull in or
>>> keep out. That could also be handled via a team small enough to reach
>>> consensus without endless bikeshedding debate. I will be happy to advise and
>>> pass on any knowledge/scripts I have to whomever is willing to take this on.
>>>
>>
>> Does anyone care about an official katamari anymore? Most
>> OSes/distros just cherry pick the parts they want anyway. If no one
>> uses them, maybe they are not worth doing anymore? If there is
>> someone that uses them, maybe they can step up to handle them,
>> otherwise we can just stick to component releases?
>
> I do like the idea of having a specified set of known building
> together components
> for historical reasons, if the main weight is releasing individual
> components I'm wondering
> do we need some way to streamline the process a bit.
>
> I've been contemplating releasing all the "maintained" but
> "maintainerless" drivers in one
> big super update, so I don't have to sign and send 25 emails.
Or maybe we can just drop a lot of the old crap for future katamaris?
If you want the old crap, use an old katamari; it not like newer ones
really add anything for old crap anyway.
Alex
>
> Dave.
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