[PATCH] xserver: Enable visible cursor on start without -retro #26798

Daniel Stone daniel at fooishbar.org
Wed Oct 20 20:02:28 PDT 2010


On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:43:00PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:10:14PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Samuel Thibault
> > <samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org> wrote:
> > > Not having a visible cursor by default poses problems with a lot of users: when
> > > they are faced with a completely dark screen without even a moving mouse, they
> > > think their machine is completely hung, while it could just be that X clients
> > > can't connect or are not starting for some reason.
> > 
> > NAK on the this needs discussion grounds.

I agree.

> > Seems like this was the whole point of the retro stuff in the first
> > place, to not display a cursor and not draw a background.
> > 
> > So I'm not sure thats a bug as much as it is as-designed.

Yep.

> I'd argue for having -retro be the default. Anything that starts up X for
> the user can relatively easily apply an extra command line option.
> 
> Without options, we should IMO clearly indicate whether X is working or not.

I don't think there's any reason to ever see the stipple, but I think at
least enabling the cursor by default is entirely reasonable; [gkx]dm and
friends can just pass -nocursor or whatever it is.

That being said, I do think we need to stop ping-ponging stuff like
this: I think -retro has now changed semantics three times.  Whether
this means we need to discuss things more before we push them in, make
better decisions, or just grow a spine and say no, is still an open
question. ;)

Cheers,
Daniel
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