[PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

[Alex Deucher]

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:44:22AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:26:04AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Isn't the standard supposed to be those 14" vga fishbowls, which did
>> >> > only up to 1024x768 interlaced? Which is iirc, the timing given
>> >> > originally...
>> >> >
>> >> > # 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz
>> >> > ModeLine "1024x768"   44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264    768  768  776  817 +hsync +vsync Interlace
>> >> >
>> >> > Why change this, are we suddenly forgetting the whole of the 90s ever
>> >> > happened?
>> >>
>> >> At some point you have to move things forward.  If you happen to have
>> >> one of those old monitors that only support 1024x768i chances are you
>> >> know what you are doing.  The vast majority of people who will hit
>> >> this case have a monitor that is capable of 1024x768p which is a much
>> >> better user experience than an interlaced mode or 640/800 progressive.
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >
>> > When you are hitting this code, then your monitor was not identified.
>> > This is not the case for that vast majority of people that you are
>> > mentioning here, or at least it shouldn't be the case. For that tiny
>> > fraction that should remains, assume a 14" svga fishbowl, and let
>> > them edit their xorg.conf.
>>
>> Most people that hit this now will be using a KVM or have a busted
>> EDID or something and 1024x768p for most people "just works", no
>> xorg.conf editing needed.  In fact on newer monitors, it probably has
>> a better chance of working than 1024x768i or some other archaic mode.
>> If you have an old vga fishbowl, then you can edit your xorg.conf.
>>
>> Alex
>
> Interlaced will not be chosen per default, you know that just as well as
> i do. People get 800x600, which is pretty well supported.
>

But most people, I would wager, prefer 10x7 to 8x6 as a default.

> Plus, with netbooks, 800x600 actually became useful again. No dialogue
> worth its salts will put its buttons outside the visible area anymore.

It would be nice if dialogs were that good, but a lot of them assume
10x7 or 12x8 at a minimum.  If you have an internal panel what's
ending up with anything other than the native panel timing are you in
trouble already.  For external monitors most from the last 10 years
are geared towards 10x7 or larger which seems like a sufficiently
large time horizon for bumping the default.

Alex