<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:08 PM Markus Ongyerth <<a href="mailto:Ongyerth@igel.com">Ongyerth@igel.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div id="m_754425217035334982divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Hello,</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">first of all thanks for organizing the event. It's been really interesting and a pleasure to attend.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">For me personally (and I got similar feedback from my colleagues) one of the main parts of XDC is personal interaction.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">While the talks are interesting and point towards cool/new tools and features, meeting people from different companies,</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">working on the graphics stack was a quite nice experience and IMO provides more immediate value.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Partially because of that, I really enjoyed the additional time spent with everyone (Tuesday/Wednesday evening + Thursday in smaller groups) and think it's a really valuable addition to the pure conference on site.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">For me, the only disappointment during the last week was to miss the i965 talks, because I attended a workshop session. Though I doubt that's avoidable without blowing the schedule up in unreasonable ways.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Hopefully more reasonable, I think the schedule (talks/workshops etc.) being available a bit earlier would be quite a bit better <span>😊</span></p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Even if not in any "binding" or complete form. At least or us, it would also help with planing with the company, since this was the first time we sent people to XDC</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">and I have to admit, I was a expecting a bit more talk about compositors or the X-server.<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your feedback. Fully agreed on the program going out too late. There's a few reasons for that:</div><div><br></div><div>- We got suprised by the overwhelming CFP response. As I mentioned, one week before it still looked very calm. I think if we pull in the deadline a little bit, and get ourselves better tooling (discussions with linux plumbers conf on trying out what they are using are already under way), we should be able to get the CFP results out in 2 weeks, and the draft program out in 3 (need some time to get confirmations).</div><div><br></div><div>- The other bit is that we didn't get any workshop proposals, since the CFP neglected to mention that. We spent quite some time chatting with people who submitted a handful of talks on similar topics to get some workshop proposal in. I think if we address this and highlight workshop proposals more, we should be able to get these into the program a bit earlier.</div><div><br></div><div>On scheduling conflicts: That's just life as soon as you have more than 1 track. And workshops in the big plenary just don't work, too many people. We've tried to overlap them not too badly, but since we received more than half proposals around mesa it was hard to avoid conflicts.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="m_754425217035334982divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">ongy</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">P.S. Drew said he's not subscribed to the list but he wrote a little blog entry, so I'll link it here: <a href="https://drewdevault.com/2018/09/30/Sway-wlroots-at-XDC-2018.html" class="m_754425217035334982OWAAutoLink" id="m_754425217035334982LPlnk215990" target="_blank"> https://drewdevault.com/2018/09/30/Sway-wlroots-at-XDC-2018.html</a></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks. Drew also mentions the lack of compositor/winsys talks. We got very, very few (I think only 2 or so), and ended up picking Keith's talk on frame timing. If you want to see more compositor talks, then we need to get them in the CFP (as talks or workshops), since they're very much in scope for XDC imo. Might be good if we know some places (mailing lists or blog planets) where we should feature the CFP. Or compositor people can forward it and do some good PR for themselves.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Daniel<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div id="m_754425217035334982divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> </div> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id="m_754425217035334982divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> events <<a href="mailto:events-bounces@lists.x.org" target="_blank">events-bounces@lists.x.org</a>> on behalf of Samuel Iglesias Gonsálvez <<a href="mailto:siglesias@igalia.com" target="_blank">siglesias@igalia.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 1, 2018 4:40:02 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:events@lists.x.org" target="_blank">events@lists.x.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> XDC 2018 feedback</font> <div> </div> </div> <div class="m_754425217035334982BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"> <div class="m_754425217035334982PlainText">Hello!<br> <br> Now that XDC 2018 is over, it is time to gather feedback!<br> <br> We would like to ask to all the attendees and the ones following us<br> online for feedback about the conference. 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