<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Frank, Thank you! That did it... I'm not sure I would have figured this out on my own! I had "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" set in my environment, which I picked up from the default Ubuntu login setup. If I run "env LANG=C twm" or "env LANG=en_US twm" the titlebuttons are scaled properly. Overcome by curiosity, I started twm under a debugger to see what it was doing with the fonts, and I found this comment in util.c: <tt>/* * The following functions are sensible to 'use_fontset'. * When 'use_fontset' is True, * - XFontSet-related internationalized functions are used * so as multibyte languages can be displayed. * When 'use_fontset' is False, * - XFontStruct-related conventional functions are used * so as 8-bit characters can be displayed even when * locale is not set properly. */ void GetFont(MyFont *font) {</tt> <tt>...</tt> When "use_fontset" is true, the ascent and descent values are determined by the "max" ascent and descent of all the fonts in the set. For example, in the case I was looking at, the "fixed" font was an alias for 17 fonts, which included an "-arabic-newspaper-*" font that has an ascent==24 and descent==11. When "use_fontset" is false, twm does a straight-up by-name lookup of the font, which has an ascent==8 and descent==2. Finally, as you observed, the locale controls the setting of "use_fontset": <tt> loc = setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); if (!loc || !strcmp(loc, "C") || !strcmp(loc, "POSIX") || !XSupportsLocale()) { use_fontset = False; } else { use_fontset = True; } </tt> Cheers, John D. Frank Steiner wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:5642EEDC.70206@bio.ifi.lmu.de" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">John DelSignore wrote </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Hi, I'm using twm on an Ubuntu 14.04 system, and for some reason depending on the TitleFont I pick, the titlebuttons are much bigger than the TitleFont. Below, I used the font "fixed" for the TitleFont, and the titlebutton is much bigger than height of the font. Why is that happening? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Check your LC_CTYPE settings. When I use en_US.UTF-8 I get the same huge titlebuttons while en_US works fine. Maybe it somehow depends of the font you use, if it can handle utf8 encoding or not (just a guess). cu, Frank </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>