You are making assumptions, that no company will ever produce a hardware device that has a monochrome screen. Yet, a monochrome screen would be suitable for ereader devices such as a kindle. As for code, memory today is cheap. I've looked closely at X memory useage and it seems from what i can see anyway that X server code consumes less than 10 MB, with all of the compability infrastructure. Maintaining code for compatability and backwards compatability has value greater than saving some kilobytes or a megabyte in the age of hundreds or thousands of megabytes. If a handheld device manufacturer has very limited memory to work with, maybe they could do their own custom compile X, if necessary, without some sections of code. But I am doubtful that will often be the case that this is necessary. But, for a desktop system today, it simply does not make sense whatsoever, the backwards compatability with older X applications is far more valuable. Ive been using X since the days of 90 MB of RAM. X memory usage has never been a big issue, the idea that X, including code for backwards compatability, uses a lot of RAM is an old lie that refuses to die. Blowing up baclwards compatability to save a megabyte or 2 of RAM makes no sense whatsoever. <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Alan Coopersmith <<a href="mailto:alan.coopersmith@oracle.com">alan.coopersmith@oracle.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im">On 07/16/11 06:43 PM, David Jackson wrote: > Has the X.org organisation ever thought of promoting X.org for use by companies > on thier handheld devices such as phones? </div>You mean like back in the days when Jim Gettys was one of the leaders of <a href="http://handhelds.org" target="_blank">handhelds.org</a> and doing research at the Compaq/HP labs on the iPaq? Yes, I think there might have been a bit of thinking, especially when they hosted the X.org Developers Conference there - as hard as it is for some people to believe we ever do any thinking here. Or perhaps you mean the last couple of years, when Nokia's (now Intel's) Meego developers have been one of the major contributors to X.Org. <div class="im"> > Years ago, in their infinite wisdom, X.org developers removed monochrome > support and low colour support, </div>Nope, sadly, both are still there, though I think the mobile developers like those on the Meego project wish we'd dump more code like that which just bloats their embedded systems, since no one wants to browse the web or play Angry Birds on 1, 4, or 8 bit screens. -- -Alan Coopersmith- <a href="mailto:alan.coopersmith@oracle.com">alan.coopersmith@oracle.com</a> Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System </blockquote></div>