On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Frans de Boer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frans@fransdb.nl">frans@fransdb.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On 08/11/2010 05:28 PM, Joel Feiner wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">KDE has a pretty spiffy screen configuration utility that
can do per-screen resolution, layout configuration, etc. It uses randr
behind the scenes, of course.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Frans de
Boer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frans@fransdb.nl" target="_blank">frans@fransdb.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Dear
Reader,<br>
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The automatic configuration of the X server is a good step ahead. Alas,<br>
there are some issues involving the user experience. To name just two:<br>
- Easy per desktop resolution setting with or without panning is
missing.<br>
- Easy definition of virtual screen and on the fly screen resolution<br>
changes using the ctrl+alt+-/+ keys are missing.<br>
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Yes, you have the xrandr CLI utility, but in a graphical world using a<br>
CLI utility which is not intuitive too??<br>
The above remarks can be overcome by manually creating/editing the<br>
xorg.conf file. But be honest, normal end users can do that?<br>
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As it stands now, the X (7.5) experience has less features then before<br>
making Windows and Mac interesting again because they offer per screen<br>
resolution setting using a GUI and if the driver supports it, panning<br>
too. Alas, they don't offer fast (using the keyboard) resolution changes<br>
as the X 7.4 and before versions did.<br>
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So - lacking a feature request function - I like to see:<br>
- Previous resolution changes using a key sequence on a virtual canvas<br>
being restored.<br>
- Easy per screen resolution setting with optional panning being
restored.<br>
- Offer a GUI for the xrandr utility with intuitive settings (so none<br>
technical people can use it too).<br>
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People before me have suggested to send a bug report, but since removal<br>
of these features have been done by design, it can't be a bug since it<br>
is a feature (or lack of).<br>
<br>
Frans.<br>
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I tried that before but:<br>
1) It does not preserve the settings between sessions.<br></div></blockquote><div>This is annoying, but it's a fixable bug.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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2) I see no panning enabled!<br>
3) If I want to zoom in quickly while doing some work, what works more
convenient: a keyboard shortcut using ctrl+alt+-/+ or starting a
utility?<br></div></blockquote><div>If you are using desktop effects, that utility is built-in. I know you may find that an unreasonable request, but the future is composited desktops to provide these kinds of features.</div>
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4) using the keyboard shortcut keeps the place where the mouse pointer
is focused. Once having zoomed in, you have to move the mouse pointer
(using panning) to find the applet again to restore the previous
resolution or switch to another resolution. Then try to find your exact
position before back again.<br></div></blockquote><div>Would be solved by my answer to (3).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
5) not everybody is working with KDE.<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div>Fair enough. But...it is also true that the future is generally with comprehensive DEs, so you'll probably find most of the enhanced features there now, despite the cult following of the old-style WMs (which I am not knocking, just pointing out the general trends). </div>
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