<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 07/14/2009 10:29 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:20090715022904.GA30859@dingo.bne.redhat.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 07:21:29PM -0700, Sean Estabrooks wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:12:50 +1000 Peter Hutterer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peter.hutterer@who-t.net"><peter.hutterer@who-t.net></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">the concept of having one pointer is built-in into the X protocol. so while you could remove the pointer from the server, applications will fail in quite interesting ways because they don't expect it. believe me, I've tried. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">I think that is Kiryl's answer right there. At a low level you just can't "turn off" the concept of a pointer. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">however, nothing in X requires you to _use_ a pointing device. I realize that some applications UI do not provide sufficient alternatives for keyboard navigation. That's not the X server's fault though. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Which makes one wonder why the low level protocol makes such demands. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> it was designed in the 1980s, and up to now the concept of a pair of input devices, once location based, one focus based is still quite widespread. I really don't know what your use-case is that requires the concept of the pointer to disappear. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">wouldn't the simple solution then be to deactivate the touchscreen? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">It sounds as if there is no alternative. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> well, if you have an input device and you don't want it to do anything, you need to deactivate it. if you have a keyboard and you don't want it to do anything, it's easier to deactivate the keyboard rather than remove the concept of a keyboard from the GUI. Cheers, Peter </pre> </blockquote> i guess all that make sense somewhat now. thanks guys. kiryl </body> </html>