Hello Peter, Bingo! Thanks for your help! Attached: 1) testneu.txt (contains error after startup) 2) testOK2.txt (what I expected after calling: setxkbmap "de(nodeadkeys),jp" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle") In the file containing the error: ... name[group1]="Germany - Eliminate dead keys"; name[group2]="Japan"; ... Just the 2 layout groups I setup. BUT some lines below there are 3 keys with a 3rd layout. Here one example: ... key <TLDE> { type[group1]= "FOUR_LEVEL", symbols[Group1]= [ asciicircum, degree, notsign, notsig n ], symbols[Group2]= [ asciicircum, degree ], symbols[Group3]= [ notsign ] }; ... The same key in trace without error has just one layout group: ... key <TLDE> { type= "FOUR_LEVEL", symbols[Group1]= [ asciicircum, degree, notsign, notsign ] }; ... Somehow this first version is broken creating the 3rd layout group. I guess I need to put these 2 patches in my xserver that you created for: <a href="http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14373">http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14373</a> Or is this other case? Cheers, Thomas <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Peter Hutterer <<a href="mailto:peter.hutterer@who-t.net">peter.hutterer@who-t.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:52:10PM +0900, Thomas Fritzsche wrote: > after upgrading to xserver 1.5.2 using the new evdev + hal I'm observing > that I receive an additional layout group. > The gnome keyboard indicator is showing this as "??" and using the > libxklavier test program I get: > > [1227322878,150,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_constructor/] Actual backend: XKB > [1227322878,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/] found 3 groups > [1227322878,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/] Group 2 has name > [Germany] > [1227322878,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/] Group 1 has name > [Japan] > [1227322878,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/] Group 0 has name [-] > > The German and Japanese Layout-Group is in my setup, but the system added an > additional Group 0 with name "-"?? > I already read though your blog (<a href="http://who-t.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://who-t.blogspot.com/</a>), but could not > find anything explaining such a odd behaviour. > > I added a lot of description and logfiles to a bug report at this link: > <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/283128" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/283128</a> > > I'm not using Autologin (that was causing trouble in other case). There are > a lot of devices coming up with evdev/hal, but all have "de,jp" assigned > (lshal). > What could causing such a problem? What can I do to avoid this problem? </div></div>Sounds similar to 14373 (fixed with commit ae986d1c73d), and could have a similar cause. Especially comment 18 hints at that <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/283128/comments/18" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/283128/comments/18</a> Do you have the above commit in your tree? Is there a difference between the output of "xkbcomp -xkb :0 -" before and after it occurs? Cheers, Peter </blockquote></div>