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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that is how i feel too, it took me 6 months of
constant search of the internet to find it, or at least, a way to make
somehow something like that... i couldnt have believed answer was right in front
of me, so to say..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>big company, that helped unify graphic
standards and invented VESA, had it all along, for the last 3-4 and more
years and they released it GPL and LGPL... why no one is using it, i just dont
understand!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>."<A href="http://www.flightsafety.com">FlightSafety</A> / <A
href="http://gumstix.com/index.html">gumstix</A>", stuff like that is
on my - *top 5 most interesting things to develop/develop for*</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>...i could jump up and down and around the room
just with thought of flying a motion simulator, as a matter of fact id build one
if i had money for hydraulics and space in a garage, i did however invest a lot
of time to figure out how those systems work and how to implement simulator
software...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and cant -not to mention- this </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>semi/amateur, now commercial project, very
inspiring!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>not only because of the inventive
and relatively cheap design of simulator, but also that old, old flight
simulator "game" that i love - <FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>F/A-18 Hornet
that, if i recall correctly, had to do something with making of X-plane,
might be the same guys actually</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.flyaces.com/">http://www.flyaces.com/</A> there should be
video of how it works, apparently, us airforce pilots go there and say its
great, they can fly team against team ... / i belive some
places military/civil have bought/implemented these, so pilots can
play *team-work* frag-fest, much like kids on the net with Quake..
hehe</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>what you make of it, can you estimate roughly the
cost of one unit? $10,000? maybe 10 for $70,000? if so that would be nice little
business, attraction in town, ARCADE games on a whole new level...
just have enough of these '10-packs' installations around the world/city
and plug it to internet.. that would make grown-ups go to arcades instead of
bowling on a friday night..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>now, i always look for something bit different, and
in this case, everything is already there - 3D STEREO...
/ </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>i'll just say that you can download
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>F/A-18 Hornet (Korea) demo, for mac and win
and you can play in 3D STEREO with shutter or red/blue glasses - ITS ABSOLUTELY
AMAZING! that old, old game, without texturus (as it was in
original) would work on myOS well above 60FPS on 1024x768x32 on all of my
test computers and laptops with new and old ati/nvidia GPUs... even 3D stereo
option too</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>..but i couldnt find anyone uses 3d stereo in
flight simulators? as a matter of fact it would work on *flyaces* if they
just turn it on, </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>it works with tv-panels,
but also with projections and maybe the best if you use shutter-glasses built
into helmet.. has 3D stereo been tried in simulators world?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>>" Right now, I know how to code in OpenGL, but have no idea how to
take an embedded command-line only distro of Linux and get some OpenGL code
running on it. Can you help me? "</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>yes, as long as there is OpenGL driver for that
hardware, it doesnt say on wiki, what exactly graphic chip is
there?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but for what i see, there is a high chance
everything might work as it is... i bet 500 points that it
works!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>if you can not plug CD there, i could
make </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>USB image of myOS or floppy image, or
ROM image.. or whatever other image you like ; -)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dont hestitate to aks, if i can help more,
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>im not sure tho if we shoud take conversation out
of here or should we "'stay" so others to read?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>zelko</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>myOS - Miniature, Linux based OpenGL development
system</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fabiomiguez@gmail.com href="mailto:fabiomiguez@gmail.com">Fabio
Miguez</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zelco@xtra.co.nz
href="mailto:zelco@xtra.co.nz">zelco@xtra.co.nz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 20, 2007 3:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> OpenGL without X, yeah!</DIV>
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<DIV>Hey Zelco,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I just finished devouring your page on running OpenGL apps in Linux
without X, and am ecstatic!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have a couple of questions. Well, actually, more than that, but
we can start with two.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>First, a little background: I want to run an app on a <A
href="http://gumstix.com/index.html">gumstix</A> that will display terrain in
3D. Gumstix come pre-loaded with <A href="http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Linux">a
small version of Linux </A>, so my plan is to write the app in OpenGL.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gumstix are very powerful for their size and cost, but they do not have a
graphics hardware accelerator, which means I need to be as light as
possible. Since the Linux image that comes pre-loaded is running only in
shell (command line) mode, I started looking for tutorials on running OpenGL
without X, and found your page. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am blown away by your screenshots by the way, you have some advanced
OpenGL functionality going on. But, since I am a new guy to Linux (I
have been furiously reading a good book on it), I am not sure about what your
code/solution does. Could what you have help me? Right now, I know
how to code in OpenGL, but have no idea how to take an embedded command-line
only distro of Linux and get some OpenGL code running on it. Can you
help me? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This is by no means a bribe, but simply an offer to share something with
you, as you have shared with the world on your page: I work for <A
href="http://www.flightsafety.com">FlightSafety</A>, at our New York
(Teterboro) training center. If you are ever in the area, and would
like to fly one of our full-motion jet simulators, it would be my
pleasure. We have the entire Dassault Falconjet family, so you could
pick whatever suits you :). </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sorry if I am sounding too giddy, but I had spent hours on the net today
going from searching for single board computers, to understanding their OSs,
to deciding how the app should be shaped to work within the desired systems
limitations, to finally bumping into your page, and that has renewed my energy
:) </DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks in advance,<BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Fabio Miguez </DIV>
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