Hi,<br><br>The ZAS distro is a pretty cool live CD, I had much fun with it this moring<br>afer booting it on my old Dell laptop. Thanks for your work.<br><br>Now the bad news, while running it my laptop got very hot and
<br>my battery life is very low. Much worse that FC6.<br>Pat<br>---<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/20/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">ZeAtShuttle</b> <<a href="mailto:zelco@xtra.co.nz">zelco@xtra.co.nz
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">hi,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">thanks, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">that is how i feel too, it took me 6 months of
constant search of the internet to find it, or at least, a way to make
somehow something like that... i couldnt have believed answer was right in front
of me, so to say..</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">big company, that helped unify graphic
standards and invented VESA, had it all along, for the last 3-4 and more
years and they released it GPL and LGPL... why no one is using it, i just dont
understand!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div>."<a href="http://www.flightsafety.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">FlightSafety</a> / <a href="http://gumstix.com/index.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
gumstix</a>", stuff like that is
on my - *top 5 most interesting things to develop/develop for*</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">...i could jump up and down and around the room
just with thought of flying a motion simulator, as a matter of fact id build one
if i had money for hydraulics and space in a garage, i did however invest a lot
of time to figure out how those systems work and how to implement simulator
software...</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">and cant -not to mention- this </font><font face="Arial" size="2">semi/amateur, now commercial project, very
inspiring!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">not only because of the inventive
and relatively cheap design of simulator, but also that old, old flight
simulator "game" that i love - <font face="Times New Roman" size="3">F/A-18 Hornet
that, if i recall correctly, had to do something with making of X-plane,
might be the same guys actually</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.flyaces.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.flyaces.com/</a> there should be
video of how it works, apparently, us airforce pilots go there and say its
great, they can fly team against team ... / i belive some
places military/civil have bought/implemented these, so pilots can
play *team-work* frag-fest, much like kids on the net with Quake..
hehe</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">what you make of it, can you estimate roughly the
cost of one unit? $10,000? maybe 10 for $70,000? if so that would be nice little
business, attraction in town, ARCADE games on a whole new level...
just have enough of these '10-packs' installations around the world/city
and plug it to internet.. that would make grown-ups go to arcades instead of
bowling on a friday night..</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">now, i always look for something bit different, and
in this case, everything is already there - 3D STEREO...
/ </font><font face="Arial" size="2">i'll just say that you can download
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">F/A-18 Hornet (Korea) demo, for mac and win
and you can play in 3D STEREO with shutter or red/blue glasses - ITS ABSOLUTELY
AMAZING! that old, old game, without texturus (as it was in
original) would work on myOS well above 60FPS on 1024x768x32 on all of my
test computers and laptops with new and old ati/nvidia GPUs... even 3D stereo
option too</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">..but i couldnt find anyone uses 3d stereo in
flight simulators? as a matter of fact it would work on *flyaces* if they
just turn it on, </font><font face="Arial" size="2">it works with tv-panels,
but also with projections and maybe the best if you use shutter-glasses built
into helmet.. has 3D stereo been tried in simulators world?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div>>" Right now, I know how to code in OpenGL, but have no idea how to
take an embedded command-line only distro of Linux and get some OpenGL code
running on it. Can you help me? "</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">yes, as long as there is OpenGL driver for that
hardware, it doesnt say on wiki, what exactly graphic chip is
there?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but for what i see, there is a high chance
everything might work as it is... i bet 500 points that it
works!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">if you can not plug CD there, i could
make </font><font face="Arial" size="2">USB image of myOS or floppy image, or
ROM image.. or whatever other image you like ; -)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">dont hestitate to aks, if i can help more,
</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">im not sure tho if we shoud take conversation out
of here or should we "'stay" so others to read?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">cheers,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">zelko</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">
</font><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="Arial" size="2">myOS - Miniature, Linux based OpenGL development
system</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://one.xthost.info/zelko/opengl.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://one.xthost.info/zelko/opengl.html
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="fabiomiguez@gmail.com" href="mailto:fabiomiguez@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Fabio
Miguez</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="zelco@xtra.co.nz" href="mailto:zelco@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
zelco@xtra.co.nz</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2007 3:19
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> OpenGL without X, yeah!
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<div>Hey Zelco,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I just finished devouring your page on running OpenGL apps in Linux
without X, and am ecstatic!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I have a couple of questions. Well, actually, more than that, but
we can start with two.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>First, a little background: I want to run an app on a <a href="http://gumstix.com/index.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">gumstix</a> that will display terrain in
3D. Gumstix come pre-loaded with <a href="http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Linux" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">a
small version of Linux </a>, so my plan is to write the app in OpenGL.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Gumstix are very powerful for their size and cost, but they do not have a
graphics hardware accelerator, which means I need to be as light as
possible. Since the Linux image that comes pre-loaded is running only in
shell (command line) mode, I started looking for tutorials on running OpenGL
without X, and found your page. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am blown away by your screenshots by the way, you have some advanced
OpenGL functionality going on. But, since I am a new guy to Linux (I
have been furiously reading a good book on it), I am not sure about what your
code/solution does. Could what you have help me? Right now, I know
how to code in OpenGL, but have no idea how to take an embedded command-line
only distro of Linux and get some OpenGL code running on it. Can you
help me? </div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is by no means a bribe, but simply an offer to share something with
you, as you have shared with the world on your page: I work for <a href="http://www.flightsafety.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">FlightSafety</a>, at our New York
(Teterboro) training center. If you are ever in the area, and would
like to fly one of our full-motion jet simulators, it would be my
pleasure. We have the entire Dassault Falconjet family, so you could
pick whatever suits you :). </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sorry if I am sounding too giddy, but I had spent hours on the net today
going from searching for single board computers, to understanding their OSs,
to deciding how the app should be shaped to work within the desired systems
limitations, to finally bumping into your page, and that has renewed my energy
:) </div>
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<div>Thanks in advance,<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Fabio Miguez </div>
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