<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7651.59"> <TITLE>RE: Still slow RE: intel I945 graphics</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY>  THanks for the suggeston about checking glxinfo, I also had several people suggest this in person while at MakeArt this weekend. We could not spot any thing wrong from seeing this output. The whole output is appended below. Direct rendering is apparently active, OpenGL is one tiny version more than Nige's. It seems to be especially texture mapped hapes that doen't work , glxgears and the 'matrix' demo of Processing seem to work, but my program and Simon Yuill's tutorial texture-mapped cube run at glacial or perhaps geologic rates. Perhaps, Quake does not use the feature, or perhaps your computer si fast enough so that fall-back software rendering is still fast enough for quake? Because if I don't use OPENGL at all, the program works much faster than with it! I can probably get better speed just by placing the pixels into a data arrray myself and using X window XPutImage. Still not as fast as my 4 year old laptop before it died though. I am unsure whether I should try to convince the shop to take back the computer in exchange for one with a different graphic processor, that has better linux support...It was unfortunate I could not easily show others at MakeArt what my program was really looking like at proper speed except by transferring to someone else's computer. ---Robert Andrew, Nige: The answers to your specific suggestins: Andrew: glxinfo | grep 'direct' direct rendering: Yes Nige: Did you try runnign Simon Yuill's python cube example that I mentioned? <A HREF="http://www.yourmachines.org/downloads/mgpy.tgz">http://www.yourmachines.org/downloads/mgpy.tgz</A> , file pygame2b ? I'll try quake and see. but I get just the same OpenGl except I already tried updating mesa to the newest GIT version as I mentioned in my original post. glxinfo | grep OpenGL OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.3 OpenGL extensions: 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 WHOLE GLXINFO OUTPUT ***************************************************** name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.3 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_cull_vertex, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_vertex_program, GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arraysglu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow </BODY> </HTML>