<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.26.0"> </HEAD> <BODY> On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 23:56 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> On 2011/5/28 Gaetan Nadon wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 05:34 -0400, David Prévot wrote: [...] Hello, I am involved in the po4a project and will try to reply to your questions about it. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> That is very nice of you, thanks. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> >>> Unless I misread, po4a uses gettext which isn't initialized in any of >>> the X.Org modules. This may come as a surprise for those who have been >>> routinely working on translation for years. >> >> I'd guess that's why some distributions began to ship their own manpages >> translation at the beginning, but the idea would be to share those pages >> for everyone now they exist. > > I am not sure I get the answer, are you saying po4a does not invoke gettext? > That would make things simpler. That is true, gettext calls in po4a source code are only there to display translated messages during po4a processing. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Ah! You mean that po4a, like any well behaved mutlti language tool, will emit messages<BR> to user while it runs during the build process. The messages are fetched using gettext calls. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE>   The processing itself does not invoke gettext nor any external tool (for the nroff backend, other backends may require external tools), only perl is required. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Unlike building C code which contains source code calling gettext, building man pages using po4a does not require the gettext build  infrastructure.<BR> Can I hazard a guess and claim that installing xrandr module on a system that does not have gettext, I would be able to read the French man page? <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> [...] > Assuming the translations are moved "upstream" (which is obviously the right > thing to do), would that result in other distros to adopt them (MAC. > Solaris, Fedora, BSD's) or would there be some hurdle for them to do so? > Perhaps po4a availability or what not. It would be sad to do the work and > have it used by Debian only. [...] Po4a is definitely not Debian-centered; we cannot force other distros to package it, but we help them by fixing problems they encounter. I remember discussions about FreeBSD and Fedora, I am pretty sure that po4a is available on these systems, but I do not know for others. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> That's good enough. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Denis _______________________________________________ <A HREF="mailto:xorg-devel@lists.x.org">xorg-devel@lists.x.org</A>: X.Org development Archives: <A HREF="http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel">http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel</A> Info: <A HREF="http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel">http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel</A> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>