<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.26.0"> </HEAD> <BODY> On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 19:04 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:48:35 -0500, Gaetan Nadon wrote: > I thought it would be easier to review this list before I create the > patch. The modules listed here are not shipped in X11R7.5 > (<A HREF="http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/src/">http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/src/</A>). I was able to find them in > either 7.4 or 7.3. My assumption is that they are obsolete in the sense > that they are no longer built or maintained. Is this assumption correct? > The list is surprisingly long. > Not in the katamari doesn't necessarily mean unmaintained, no. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> I remember reading about the concept of the katamari release, so that makes sense. In the release notes there are explicit notes about what has been "removed". I wanted to clarify what exact modules were removed. There are various "maintenance states" a module can be in. 7.5 - Removed from this Release Xprint kdriver servers Extensions: (I won't list those already excluded from build.sh, the most recent one being xtrap)     XEVIE     FontCache     XFree86-Misc The extensions are the ones I ma most interested in for the immediate. Then I saw all these apps, most of them last shipped in 7.3, which are not mentioned in 7.4 release notes. That left me confused. To avoid confusion, my question is strictly related to whether or not the modules listed below should be in build.sh. This means they will continue receiving build related maintenance (upgrades, fix) and any fix required if a build breakage occurs. This will happen, just by virtue of being in build.sh. This is the minimum. They may receive additional code changes, like upgrade on the latest level of ABIs. Sometimes we don't want that to preserve the last intended commit . I'll add information from the maintainers list, that should help reviewers. <PRE> Packages Last shipped Maintainers list --------------------- ------------- ----------------- proto/evieproto 7.4 - 1.0.2 No info lib/libXevie 7.3 - 1.0.2 No info proto/xf86miscproto 7.4 - 0.9.2 No info lib/libXxf86misc 7.4 - 1.0.1 No info proto/fontcacheproto 7.4 - 0.1.2 No info lib/libXfontcache 7.4 - 1.0.4 No info lib/libxkbui 7.3 - 1.0.2 Maintained app/xsetpointer 7.3 - 1.0.0 Not listed app/appres 7.4 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/beforelight 7.3 - 1.0.2 Obsolete app/bitmap 7.4 - 1.0.3 Not listed app/editres 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/fonttosfnt 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/fslsfonts 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/fstobdf 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/ico 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/listres 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/oclock 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/rgb 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/rstart 7.3 - 1.0.2 Obsolete app/scripts 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/showfont 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/twm 7.3 - 1.0.3 Not listed app/viewres 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xbiff 7.3 - 1.0.1 Maintained app/xcalc 7.3 - 1.0.2 Maintained app/xclipboard 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xclock 7.3 - 1.0.3 Maintained app/xconsole 7.3 - 1.0.3 Maintained app/xdbeddizy 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/xditview 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xdm 7.3 - 1.1.6 Maintained app/xedit 7.3 - 1.0.2 Maintained app/xeyes 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not lsited app/xf86dga 7.4 - 1.0.2 No info app/xfd 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xfontsel 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xfs 7.3 - 1.0.4 Not listed app/xfsinfo 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xgc 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xinit 7.3 - 1.0.5 Not listed app/xkbprint 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xload 7.3 - 1.0.2 Maintained app/xlogo 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xlsfonts 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xmag 7.3 - 1.0.2 Not listed app/xman 7.3 - 1.0.3 Maintained app/xmessage 7.3 - 1.0.2 Maintained app/xmh 7.3 - 1.0.1 Obsolete app/xmore 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xsetmode 7.4 - 1.0.0 Not listed app/xsetpointer 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xsm 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xstdcmap 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed app/xvidtune 7.3 - 1.0.1 Not listed driver/xf86-video-sunbw2 7.4 - 1.1.0 Unmaintained font/bitstream-speedo 7.4 - 1.0.0 Not listed video glide is commented out but shipped and actively maintained. In maintainer list, the status is: "Obsolete, yet still somehow maintained". </PRE> Definitions of terms from maintainers list: <PRE> <TT> Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this.</TT> <TT> Maintained: Someone actually looks after it.</TT> <TT> Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do</TT> <TT> much other than throw the odd patch in. See below..</TT> <TT> Unmaintained: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the</TT> <TT> role as you write your new code].</TT> <TT> Deactivated: Package is about to be obsoleted. A deactivated</TT> <TT> package will not receive general fixes unless a user</TT> <TT> requires this package to be reactivated first.</TT> <TT> Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means</TT> <TT> it has been replaced by a better system and you</TT> <TT> should be using that.</TT> </PRE> I wrote "Not listed" if the module name is missing from the file and "No info" if the module is in the file but has no information about it. Thanks Julien <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Cheers, Julien _______________________________________________ xorg-devel mailing list <A HREF="mailto:xorg-devel@lists.x.org">xorg-devel@lists.x.org</A> <A HREF="http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel">http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel</A> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>