<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> David Miller wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20090327.223038.70106913.davem@davemloft.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">From: Gerry Reno <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:greno@verizon.net"><greno@verizon.net></a> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:42:13 -0400 </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">This is smoke and mirrors. This is not about worrying about people accidentally hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace while working on their papers. I've never in thirty years of *nix experience working in companies with tens of thousands of employees ever see this happen. This is about implementing a change for Emacs users so that "their" similar keystroke combinations don't conflict. And that's not something that is affecting tens of millions of people. That is affecting only the tiny Emacs community. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Wrong and wrong and wrong. People here, like me, have told you that whilst they've used X for years, and that they know what the keysequence is and what it does, they have still hit it by accident and lost work. I have fat fingers, other people do too. It's not about user education either, like you continually claim. And unlike the reset button and the power cord, the X server ZAP sequence isn't protected in any "reasonable" way from accidental use. Your fingers are flying over the "big red button" every time you type, and that's what makes it a bad default. </pre> </blockquote> If this were so, then you would have had thousands of people clamoring in the forums about such a 'terrible' default.  And we have seen no such clamoring.   And this Ctrl-Alt-Backspace historical keystroke combination has been around forever.  Your assertions about this so-called accidental use are vastly overblown.  I defy you to produce any credible documented major impact events from such "accidental use".  From experience I can tell you, it just doesn't happen in any statistically significant way. I would hope that all Xorg stakeholders will see this change for what it really represents.  And that any sensible distro will re-enable the historical default for the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace keysequence. Regards, Gerry </body> </html>